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Watched this when first presented. What a wonderful learning opportunity! Deb Bennett is so knowledgeable and she deserves countless thanks for sharing.

look forward to watching this later today ..love DR Deb.. and all her work

Thanks for sharing the video, Milly is a true treasure. Great poems with valuable advice.

This was a song of 2 souls. Beautiful.

It’s a pleasure listening to this man articulate his heart

What a treasure!

Chore people…love this!

So good to see and hear you both. Mark, your reading those passages and letting the meanings soak in, brought me to tears. Thank you for offering such wisdom and help - my horses and others will, I sincerely hope, appreciate this.

I love second-hand bookshops. I came across one of Mark's books in one little shop. I read it in two days and am always on the lookout for more. I have always loved horses. A young colt came into my life during a drought season, and we went on a lovely journey together. Finances resulted in my having to give my beautiful horse away to a very capable horseman who cared for the colt until his last day. I stayed away from horses after saying goodbye to my horse, knowing I would never be able to have a horse in my life due to my employment being rewarding but not that financially rewarding. I'm a disability support worker. I was avoiding heartbreak. I think Then horses started to come back into my life 30 years later. Now I have a riding lesson once a week and volunteer at a horse rescue near my house. I love all the horses that come and go from the rescue. It's a special place. There's been a lot of cutting of corners and inward struggle to get to a place where I can be with the horses in a way that is nice and relaxed. It's very nice when some of the long-term horses at the rescue recognise me and call out to me at the rescue. It's terrific fun riding the horse riding school horses who really have been great teaches. They all recognise me and are awesome horses to ride. I haven't read all of Mark's books yet. I'll get to this new one eventually.

Jim Rowe used to tell us in college dressage classes that the horse collects by using his stomach muscles.. He had a 9th grade education- and i bet didn't know the word rectus abdominus, but he did truly understand collection- Also he was a student of Dorita Konyot, and I think her dad, and brothers.. best Bruce Peek

De. Bennett Phd is the best she walks around knowing all this stuff.. At her level its literally endless amounts of knowledge about how all of the horses anatomical features fit together and reciprocate to enable the horse to properly carry the rider.. best Bruce Peek

I know, about to move the horses in the barn

Love Nahshon

Love it! I am trying so hard to be conscious of reading my horse like this.

This is such an interesting and engaging conversation, thank you Emily and Steve.

Great interview; I met Jim Overstreet at a Buck Brannaman clinic at Big Sky, Montana once. We were both taking pictures to write articles, (I'm not a writer), and he said that I could go first since I was further along, or maybe he was just being kind. It was the first article published on Buck and went into Western Horseman. It was very kind of Jim to let me do that. The Overstreets are well respected in Montana. The rightness of so much of what Jim says about Tom makes me smile. I watched Tom at an indoor arena outside of Dillon, MT in the Grasshopper Valley. There were over a dozen riders and the grandstands were filled. Tom sat by himself on a chair close to the horses passing by and worked with the different riders, their horses, questions from the grandstands and three or four dogs playing at his feet, all at once. One small dog was being bullied by the others and Tom sorted that out among the dogs so quietly and gently that most people weren't even aware of the dogs since he never touched or referred to them. Late that afternoon he sat outside the arena on a little folding stool that he carried and answered questions. Kindness was his being, something without effort that you actually felt.

But I don't know if he knows something about Zen. But he was Zen.

Tom was a Zen Master.

He rides a horse like a lady

Toes are down

Hi Emily , this conversation is marvelous, so instructive, so nice to watch and listen. I think everything that is good is supported in a Culture. And the Californio Culture is having a real RENASCENCE all over the world. You really love your job. Thanks a lot.

It is an immeasurable pride to know that the biggest name in the equestrian scene in Brazil has its due recognition in the USA as well. Professor Borba revolutionized the way professionals approach horses and life in Brazil. It is an immense pleasure and privilege to learn from him, even if I cannot be with him as often as I would like. Even so, I make a point of consuming all types of content made available by him on the media. I am sure that, as far as we who like horses above anything else, Professor Borba's teachings, lessons and ideas will live on in the minds and hearts of people in the next generations who are inspired by and inhale horses.

Dr Deb is a true gem 💎 a passionate , honest and caring teacher and truly looking out for the horse. A wonderful video.

Fabulous conversation. I have Dr Deb’s Opus and old books, and this new publication is First Class.

Really nice. Never ceases to amaze me the impacts Tom and Ray had on so many people. One of Ms. Barney's comments that really struck me was how she felt when she first saw Ray, and relating that to how a horse must feel when they are finally understood.

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Thank you very much. Wonderful interview.

Great interview thank you.

Thank for sharing this video! It’s a wonderful watch/listen.

This for me, is one of your, Nahshon's best interviews. Poetry in motion. Clarity & recognition. I bought the book as soon as it emerged, have both of your books, & love them. So much heart that I try & breathe into my horse (&myself!!). Thank you

What a treasure. Thank you Emily.

This seems really old...

I LOVE BUCK!!! I follow Steve young horsemanship and i see so much of his training here and even when he mentions Tom dormance love it. such common sense. thanks Buck. hope to see you in NC nest time. I missed you last time ;(

This was great, thank you! As a body worker, I love learning more about my horses and how they move and what affects their movement!

This is the most interesting conversation I’ve listened to so far. So informative and fascinating, I’ve listened / watched and studied the diagrams three times now and am still gleaning information each time. Highly recommend listening, and would love it if Deb Bennett wrote an equine history book. 😊 Thank you for this conversation.

I love your counting the stride pattern to make sure the back is in the proper rhythm and using forward energy to achieve it. I've ridden for 50 years and never heard it explained that way. Thank you

Met and rode with Peter on two occasions up in Northern Alberta, where he would come faithfully to put on clinics. Too soon gone !! RIP Mr. Campbell. You were a true horseman in every sense of the word.

what majestic animals horses are... i'm not a horse rider or have no affiliation at all but i like seeing this kind of content... and this ones a beauty!

Thank you for this wonderful interview! So much insight on great horsemanship that will be preserved for generations.

I'm not exactly sure why, but listening to Milly telling the little story about Tom and his horse catch a short nap, bought up some tears in my heart and on my face. Thanks so much for this interview Emily.

Great conversation! Tom is a great writer but he's also a great observer. Taking what he see's and internalizing it, then explaining in a way that is easy to understand. Highly recommend his books!

Sharing our heart… well we really are one heart in the biggest picture of all ! You are very brave and so appreciated.

Nahshon, your books are unique , true to your heart and experiences… never have I considered it “weird ‘ - but at first look - not understanding where you were coming from until I finished the second page. Then I said “ Oh I seeeee- !’ You have the connection with horses that I do “get’ and look so forward to your clinic in November in upstate NY! I see you , I see me, the horse sees … they help us seee more clearly if we also listen and feel! You DO ! Beautiful friend … Thank you ❤😊

Deb I still have some stuff from the arabian horse express too. best Bruce Peek

sounds like a remarkable teacher. Thank you.

I loved the Arabian Horse Express! Love Dr. Deb. thank you!

Dr. Deb opened my eyes--really opened my eyes--about how to evaluate horses. I pore over everything she writes because I can't absorb all of the information at once. I have to go back and go back and, more often than not, back again! I would encourage everyone to buy her conformation books. She considers this latest work her opus, but there's so much to learn in everything she's done over the decades--the work she did for the Arabian Express; the first columns she wrote for EQUUS, most of which ended up in Priciples of Conformation Analysis (still available); the latest columns she has penned for EQUUS, and now this masterpiece. She's the real thing! Buy. Them. TODAY.

Dr.Deb I can listen to for hours! In person, or via phone as I have done many times. She is brilliant. She speaks the truth within her knowledge base. Her new expanded books are helping my students. They are excellent. This is Liz Graves commenting here not Dave as Dave controls my online existence as I do not excel in it and do not care to. I live with horses and hate the new-age tech. If you feel you are struggling with these books then go back and buy her conformation workbook #1 to get a base knowledge. My gut as a teacher feels the interviewer did not understand or expected what was coming in this interview and the depth of person she was about the experience. I hope she ponders Dr. Deb's words and thinks beyond an interview moment but an educational one for her as well.

What a wonderful conversation! Thank you for sharing this.

As usual you did good.